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Old 10-18-2006 | 01:20 PM
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liability my friend - there is where the cost is, plus nowone else step up to do it - go ahead be the better man and do it for your standard rates of 2 peanuts and ball of lint.

true true. Capitalize on opportunity. The american dream. But I'm mexican so ill stick to the ketchup packets.





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Old 10-18-2006 | 01:46 PM
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I never had the patience for that on my old civic. It was more hassle than it was worth to try to drill thru the door and the fender seam or whatever.
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Old 10-18-2006 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 93ex
I never had the patience for that on my old civic. It was more hassle than it was worth to try to drill thru the door and the fender seam or whatever.

I figure ill just take a titanium bit and drill straight through everything in one sweep.
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Old 10-18-2006 | 03:09 PM
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See, I'm pretty sure the stock wire on Hondas aren't 16gauge though. Most stock wire on hondas are 18 or 20gauge I thought.

With that saying, Nominal amps thru the 16gauge wire (Usually the generic formula Volts Multiplied by Amperes (amps) = Watts) - 4.85amps x 12 volts = about 58 Watts. Which is a lil over half what I plan to run. Seems that the 16gauge would be causing a bottle neck.



GradeA, you and I both know thats a bit over priced. I was thinking of something of $25 a door (since you mentioned its so easy) Quick $50 less than an hour
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Old 10-18-2006 | 03:12 PM
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Thanks Dalt, took me a while to reply. lol, if you're going to gettr done, thats all that matters.
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Old 10-18-2006 | 04:26 PM
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for $200 I'll spin a paper clip by hand until it makes the holes.
I'll pay $200 to see that...

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Old 10-18-2006 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by djgizmo
See, I'm pretty sure the stock wire on Hondas aren't 16gauge though. Most stock wire on hondas are 18 or 20gauge I thought.

With that saying, Nominal amps thru the 16gauge wire (Usually the generic formula Volts Multiplied by Amperes (amps) = Watts) - 4.85amps x 12 volts = about 58 Watts. Which is a lil over half what I plan to run. Seems that the 16gauge would be causing a bottle neck.



GradeA, you and I both know thats a bit over priced. I was thinking of something of $25 a door (since you mentioned its so easy) Quick $50 less than an hour
Problem with your math is that it isn't 12 volts. The amplifier output is higher than that. 100 watts into 4 ohms is 5 amps. 100 watts divided by 5 amps is 20 volts.

More importantly, what Dalton was trying to show was that with this 20 volts from your amplifier, you'll only push 98 watts to the speaker, with the other 2 going to heat the wire. I.e., you'll lose a maximum of 2 watts due to the wire. Even 12 ga would have some loss, so its really a matter of something less than 2 watts.

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Old 10-18-2006 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by TJElite
I'll pay $200 to see that...

Toby
I'll get in on that as well....
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Old 10-18-2006 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by djgizmo
See, I'm pretty sure the stock wire on Hondas aren't 16gauge though. Most stock wire on hondas are 18 or 20gauge I thought.

With that saying, Nominal amps thru the 16gauge wire (Usually the generic formula Volts Multiplied by Amperes (amps) = Watts) - 4.85amps x 12 volts = about 58 Watts. Which is a lil over half what I plan to run. Seems that the 16gauge would be causing a bottle neck.



GradeA, you and I both know thats a bit over priced. I was thinking of something of $25 a door (since you mentioned its so easy) Quick $50 less than an hour
you you are using the wrong formula, in order to calculate the power loss, we want to know how much current we are channeling based on what we know. We know two things: the total resistance and the intended wattage thats I=P/R


and again in the same spirit, 18ga wire would result in a maximum of a 3% loss (.0065 ohms per foot compared with .004) With small wires, you do not see any power limitations until they reach their physical ability to channel electrons which for 18ga wire would be at about 400 watts RMS



If we were talking about long runs of wire which I'm sure you deal with in DJ equipment then there would be some significant loss. But in such a small space of an automobile with so much raw power, that $50 would be better spend on an extra 300 watts of aplifier power... which now that I think of it would more than make up for the loss over the line.
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Originally Posted by 93ex
I never had the patience for that on my old civic. It was more hassle than it was worth to try to drill thru the door and the fender seam or whatever.
O SNAP! theres an idea I didnt think of!!! Close the door and drill THROUGH the kick panel into the door with a long bit...
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