that was very well put.

 

Creationists disavow the theroy of evolution - they believe that god made us how we stand today. Intelligent Designers believe that someone (The Intelligent Designer) made something, that evolved into Homo Sapien Sapiens.

Due to overwhelming evidence, many if not most 'normal' churches have ceased to preach Creationism and accepted Intelligent Design. And they've done that because these scientists have presented them with so much evidence that they finally realized blindly bleating, "I didn't evolve from monkeys, God made me like I am today!" was just foolish. The interesting part is that this concession just sorta turns the fairy tale of Adam and Eve on its head, or at the very least forces it to be heavily reworked.

So, again, you have it backwards. Scientists concede nothing to religion.

 

OK, If I was to prove the bible was true, I would point out the nation of Israel as an example. The nation did come out of Egypt, and both Ezekial, Daniel and Isaiah all fortold of the demise and rebirth of the nation of Israel hundreds of years before it actually happened, they named the people and the place. They also told that Jews would suffer unbridled persecution (8.5mil died at the hands of the nazis in WW2 alone), they said the nation would once again come together (1948, under some of the oddest circumstances and against incredible odds) and that it would never be overun (1972 Yom Kippur war found the Israeli army unprepared and approximately 25% of the country was over run, but the Israelis regrouped and actually gained territory, Israel is also only 50 miles wide at it's smallest width, it is also surrounded by it's enemies.) It will however one day be decieved by a world monarch (perhaps maybe the UN? who knows) into putting down it's arms. The temple of Jerusalem will also be rebuilt (a mosque sits on the sight currently). Just a word to my agnostic friends out there, when that happens, crap is really, really gonna hit the fan. The Bible is not just a bunch of stories, the things it talks about are still going on.
Also, it takes much more faith to believe in evolution than the Bible, as an example, take a Dodge Viper, dissasemble it, throw all the parts into a C-130, fly over a runway and drop them all out, if you believe that those parts will reassemble themselves into a working Viper, then evolutuion is for you. The odds of the human race getting to where we are , is about the same (give or take a nut or bolt.)
And what would comprise a "normal" church? according to who, the press? Science concedes nothing to "religion" (who's religion?) Well at least it didn't until the Dead Sea scrolls turned up and validated the old Testament, the New Testament BTW, was written first hand.

 

There is no need to go back and forth on this topic. Everyone has their own opinion. No matter what you guys say back and forth to each other is not going to change your beliefs.

 

You're comparing apples to oranges with the Viper example. If the Viper was comprised of living things, and you dropped it, and then you gave it millions of years to develop..............

 

I almost posted the same thing last night, but let it go. You're right, though. This is why I don't talk religion with people - it usually ends in hard feelings.

 

Fire away, it won't hurt my feelings.
The issue with science is that, science itself is always evolving. There have been something like 25 different changes to the evolutionary theory in the past 50 years. every time some one digs up the remnants of some rare Peruvian Three Toed Tree Climbing Aardslap, the theory changes or at the very least gets tweaked. What I'm saying is that the Bible stated creation happened this way, it hasn't changed, ever. Science is the moving target, not the Bible. I don't even care if it gets taught in schools, but as a theory, not as fact. Because if it's a fact, it sure changes a lot.
One other thing, if it did take as long as you say to"evolve" then the earth would have to be a lot older than those same scientist say it is. So like, which is it?

 

Biblical Creationists think the earth is only about 10,000 years old. 'Splain that one to me.

 

OK, here's 2
According to evolutionists, Stone Age man existed for 100,000 years before beginning to make written records about 4,000-5,000 years ago. Prehistoric man built megalithic monuments, made beautiful cave paintings, and kept records of lunar phases. Why would he wait a thousand centuries before using the same skills to record history? The biblical time-scale is much more likely.

All naturally occurring families of radioactive elements generate helium as they decay. If such decay took place for billions of years, as alleged by evolutionists, much helium should have found its way into the Earth's atmosphere. The rate of loss of helium from the atmosphere into space is calculable and small. Taking that loss into account, the atmosphere today has only 0.05% of the amount of helium it would have accumulated in five billion years. This means the atmosphere is much younger than the alleged evolutionary age.
A study published in the Journal of Geophysical Research shows that helium produced by radioactive decay in deep, hot rocks has not had time to escape. Though the rocks are supposed to be over one billion years old, their large helium retention suggests an age of only thousands of years.

 

Wow....Blacksheep....you have done WAY more research than I have into this whole thing! Kudos to you mang....