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Old 07-15-2008 | 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by SpyVO
This stuff has me freaked out quite a bit, and like I said, I think it's the speed of the change that is causing it. Honestly, I like this country pretty much the way it is, and to think that it *IS* going to change doesn't really sit too well.

Part of embracing the global economy means investing in foreign markets. As long as your advisor knows that, and I'm sure he does, you'll probably end up with a lot of dollars later on...though it's tough to say what THEY'LL be worth.

I STILL think American stuff is the best. Cars, maybe not now, but high end electronics, guitars, and SHOES! Yes, my New Balance shoes are made in the USA! And they did fit better than the Nikes I tried...haha
Guitars...you wanna know the absolute sweetest Guitar I've ever played? Gretsch White Falcon, my buddy Frankie's. Its amazing. I think thats made in America, isn't it?

Oh, she knows her stuff. I've made so much money on energy and oil lately its stupid.
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Old 07-15-2008 | 08:14 PM
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As far as the global economy goes, there is no 'short end of the stick'. It will ultimately balance out in the aggregate. They ALWAYS do. They have to.
Lemme change this up and ask you this . Would you be willing to do away with the american dollar and go with something like Europe has (Euro)? Because in a true "global" economy there would only be one form of currency. I for one an not going to give up what has been so hard fought to get.

The major problem with these family owned companys being sold to over seas investors is that the family atmospere of a smaller company dies. My company used to be a medium sized family owned manufactor and was bought by an over seas comglomerate (sp). It went from a tight group of people that worked hard for each other to a cut throat look at me craphole when they brought in there people to run the show. Trust me it sucks!!!
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Old 07-15-2008 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Shamus O'Toole
Lemme change this up and ask you this . Would you be willing to do away with the american dollar and go with something like Europe has (Euro)? Because in a true "global" economy there would only be one form of currency. I for one an not going to give up what has been so hard fought to get.

The major problem with these family owned companys being sold to over seas investors is that the family atmospere of a smaller company dies. My company used to be a medium sized family owned manufactor and was bought by an over seas comglomerate (sp). It went from a tight group of people that worked hard for each other to a cut throat look at me craphole when they brought in there people to run the show. Trust me it sucks!!!

We worked so hard to get that USD, hmm? Well, not only is the Euro worth a lot more than the USD, but the GBP, which is what we'd otherwise still be using, is way over the value of a dollar too. They both have been for a long time, too. Seems pretty shitty to me. Nonstandaradized currency is a huge hurdle to global commerce, and in our lifetimes I believe we very well may see a standardized currency. And you know what? If what happened with the Euro once it was standardized happens with whatever ends up being the end-all currency, amidst all the screams of, "OMG THIS IS UNAMERICAN!" we'll have the most valued currency in the history of the world.


Family owned companies are all good and great - small business definately fills a niche for the American market, but I somehow doubt foriegn investors want to buy mom and pop's grocery store down the road and manage it from Turkey. Also take note, the giants in every industry started out as small businesses; they're now huge international conglomerates for a reason.
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Old 07-15-2008 | 08:36 PM
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We worked so hard to get that USD, hmm? Well, not only is the Euro worth a lot more than the USD, but the GBP, which is what we'd otherwise still be using, is way over the value of a dollar too. They both have been for a long time, too. Seems pretty shitty to me. Nonstandaradized currency is a huge hurdle to global commerce, and in our lifetimes I believe we very well may see a standardized currency. And you know what? If what happened with the Euro once it was standardized happens with whatever ends up being the end-all currency, amidst all the screams of, "OMG THIS IS UNAMERICAN!" we'll have the most valued currency in the history of the world.


Family owned companies are all good and great - small business definately fills a niche for the American market, but I somehow doubt foriegn investors want to buy mom and pop's grocery store down the road and manage it from Turkey. Also take note, the giants in every industry started out as small businesses; they're now huge international conglomerates for a reason.

It's not the mom and pop stores there buying up. It's the medium to large manufactors there buying up. Companys like Keys concrete, Matt Stone (pavers,retaining wall,patio stones),Paver system,Sacrete the list is long! All owned buy a company in Ireland. This parent company comes in and starts cutting corners. People lose jobs,product quality drops, and the dollar you spend goes over seas. This is happening as we speak. I live it everyday.

We as a country worked very hard to become what we are. We didn't come over from Europe because the weather is nicer in North America.We came over to be free of the idiocracy that goes on to this day in Europe. So yes we've worked very hard for that US dollar. People died for our way of life. I AM NOT GONNA GIVE THAT UP!!
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Originally Posted by Shamus O'Toole
It's not the mom and pop stores there buying up. It's the medium to large manufactors there buying up. Companys like Keys concrete, Matt Stone (pavers,retaining wall,patio stones),Paver system,Sacrete the list is long! All owned buy a company in Ireland. This parent company comes in and starts cutting corners. People lose jobs,product quality drops, and the dollar you spend goes over seas. This is happening as we speak. I live it everyday.

We as a country worked very hard to become what we are. We didn't come over from Europe because the weather is nicer in North America.We came over to be free of the idiocracy that goes on to this day in Europe. So yes we've worked very hard for that US dollar. People died for our way of life. I AM NOT GONNA GIVE THAT UP!!
Depends. The good part about that is if they turn into shit a new company can and will open up to fill the void. Nothing can stand in the way of the markets. Absolutely nothing. As long as its a free market (which a global economy is the absolute embodiment of) nothing can fuck it up. The invisible hand makes sure of that.

We came to America to escape persecution, mostly. And we have definately changed from the European way of life. Adopting a standard world currency isn't going to suddenly turn us into Britain...I mean...theres also the entire rest of the world. Listen, its just going to happen..cultural diffusion, a global economy, the breakdown of borders, ethnic and cultural lines...as the exchange of goods, services, ideas, etc. becomes easier and easier every day, we'll continue to move away from this isolationism we've had up until recently more and more. And no matter how scared of it you are, you're going to be hard pressed to argue, using any credible economic methods or models, that it won't be a good thing.
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Old 07-15-2008 | 08:58 PM
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Depends. The good part about that is if they turn into shit a new company can and will open up to fill the void. Nothing can stand in the way of the markets. Absolutely nothing. As long as its a free market (which a global economy is the absolute embodiment of) nothing can fuck it up. The invisible hand makes sure of that.

We came to America to escape persecution, mostly. And we have definately changed from the European way of life. Adopting a standard world currency isn't going to suddenly turn us into Britain...I mean...theres also the entire rest of the world. Listen, its just going to happen..cultural diffusion, a global economy, the breakdown of borders, ethnic and cultural lines...as the exchange of goods, services, ideas, etc. becomes easier and easier every day, we'll continue to move away from this isolationism we've had up until recently more and more. And no matter how scared of it you are, you're going to be hard pressed to argue, using any credible economic methods or models, that it won't be a good thing.
...as the exchange of goods, services, ideas...........tell that to the middle east!!LOL I hope it doesn't happen in my life time. Guess I'm just not willing to bend on this. I feel for our children and grandchildren.
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Originally Posted by Shamus O'Toole
...as the exchange of goods, services, ideas...........tell that to the middle east!!LOL I hope it doesn't happen in my life time. Guess I'm just not willing to bend on this. I feel for our children and grandchildren.
Ever wonder why nobody likes the middle east and they're dying off, killing eachother off, and getting killed off faster than mosquitos in a bug zapper?

Hint: I already said it.









































Still don't know?

Adapt. Or DIE. You didn't think I meant that literally, did you?
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Old 07-16-2008 | 12:09 PM
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If what happened with the Euro once it was standardized happens with whatever ends up being the end-all currency, amidst all the screams of, "OMG THIS IS UNAMERICAN!" we'll have the most valued currency in the history of the world.
Yeah, but we'd have waaaaaaaaay less of it.

That's the same logic you used in that SVO thread, basically saying there's no way you'd look twice at a 300 hp 4-cylinder Mustang, but a 300 hp V8 would be OK.

And we know how that thread ended up.

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I didn't even think before typing that.
^^^ So far the most accurate thing I've seen you post on here.
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Old 07-16-2008 | 12:27 PM
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Yeah, but we'd have waaaaaaaaay less of it.

That's the same logic you used in that SVO thread, basically saying there's no way you'd look twice at a 300 hp 4-cylinder Mustang, but a 300 hp V8 would be OK.

And we know how that thread ended up.



^^^ So far the most accurate thing I've seen you post on here.
We'd have way less of it? What is your basis for this assumption? My basis for the increase in currency value is history - you know, like the history following the standardization of the Euro across many European countries.

Listen, buddy. You can feel free to be as billy badass as you want while discussing who's mulletmobile is cooler, but you better be bringing some kind of knowledge to the table if you want to discuss Macroeconomics with me, and not just slinging shit.
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