Possibly get BMP, SunShine, and Immokalee all in on the idea, and go to a full on "circuit" type of race? Have (4) annual events. One at each track - with a final being held at BMP

Just another idea... I hope you're taking notes Scott

 

I think the major hurdle for any would be racer has got to be the depth of their checkbook. Look at who wins the big dawg races - these guys are loaded, are very orgranized with their overall racing programs, enjoy major shop support resources and are willing to spend even more money if it means beating that new guy who just came on the scene. The advantage gained by "one upping" the competition somehow needs to be put down...

How about somehow tying a budget into the series? Maybe have a motor claim rule like they do in local level circle track races. This way it makes Richy Rich think twice about putting a ba-jillion $$$ into his entry level motor, if someone in the bottom half of the field could claim it for $500. Make it so money is not the number one thing separating the racers from each other.

Or have the class pay like crazy - easier said than done but get creative somehow. Maybe the racers buy in with a 4 race season pass from which a good part of it goes to creating a nice wealthy purse. Or who knows some rich guys that might want their name on the series? Add to the purse with local sponsorships and contributions - sell it to them like we're keeping this shit off the streets. Employ some sort of media where advertising could be sold! All of it geared towards sharing the love with the racers who commit to the series, take the time, travelled to the race, and went out first round. Each race day has a cost whether you win or lose - somehow make sure the participants are in good enough financial health to encourage them to come back next time...

Seems like as long as budget isn't a restriction, the swingers will always be able to out spend you and keep the field chasing the fast side of the money...

 

The motor claim rule is a fast and dirty way of getting the job done without going through the PITA of a detailed tech (and people trying to get around it) Basically how it works in the roundy-round world is that the top 4 finishers can purchase any of the top 3 cars' engines for 1 grand, That gets you the entire block heads and intake The carbs and pans stay with the car.
If you check out the "cheapo" engine builders you will find that you can build a respectable SBC for about $1500, I don't know if you could do that with a Ford because the 350s are falling out of the sky, there are very few Ford racers there.
I think the NASA way of doing things is actually better, but you would have to bring a portable dyno out to the track when you ran these events. NASA says that you run any engine in any combination that you want (in this case camaros and mustangs) however, the HP to weight ratio must be "A" to "B".
At the end of the night you dyno the car based on it's HP to weight, if the car is over 10% it's out. This would mean fords, chevies, mopars, and anything else could run competitively and heads up, you could run a top fueler if you want, just don't forget to add the 5 tons of ballast.
That being said, I would limit the class to rear drive muscle cars with the racing organization having the final say (so you could unload the big block Isettas, but keep the 65 GTO.
You guys have to understand this money to fun ratio. You can have a bunch of guys running heads up at 12 seconds with relatively cheap cars or you can all run 8s and piss away some serious bucks doing the same thing. I think you'll find that running heads up is a lot of fun, and an arguably better show, than out moneying the next guy.
This is the big deal right here, like it or not (I don't) NASCAR runs cookie cutter cars with 1950's technology and everybody thinks that it's the greatest show on earth because the races are close and the fields of cars are full. You guys need to be thinking the same way.
With regards to the tire deal, just run a tire that a specific size and brand, done, the tub cars IMO,won't have an insurmountable advantage.


I'm heading ou t to burger king on US 19 in Pinellas Park if anyone wants to continue this discussion there.

 

I'll be at the next event with my Z06. totally stock LS6. Street tires(unless I find D/R's and rims). I'll prolly get high 12's with my A/C on.
say what you want about the chevy jump for me....I like all kinds of sports cars...I just happen to currently own a chevy.
My day is coming again. I'll probably buy a nice stang again to race.

 

I think an "I really drive this car everyday class and It runs pump gas no power adder class" would be cool.

 

saw this coming from a mile away.. anywho

1 power adder (you going to get into limiting the "size" of said power adder? (i.e. can I run a fogger since you are running an 82mm turbo?,etc) or limit the "amount" of boost/nitrous that can be run? (extremely hard to check/police)
cubic inch/weight limit (big blocks allowed?)
10.5 x 28 max tire (no ws) or a certain size DR
stock suspension (no rear coilovers)
transbrakes (letting a 5spd car eat with a clutch is the same thing)
then if you want to filter it further, then make the street equipment mandatory... but you know how that goes..


just suggestions, good luck.

 

I'd go to 2-4 races a year. But keep in mind if the faster you make the class the less the car count becomes. Gotta have something for us slow guys.

-Mark

 

How about "class winners"?! Something like an 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 second class with a winner in each division? ET must match MPH, no sand baggin / bracket racing...

 

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I thought this same thing but, didnt know exactly how it worked. But this wouldnt work for the aftermarket blocked cars.... so much for a budget class

 

what wrong with not so much politics and a run what you brung .realistic street car no trailer queens.