How the US fell out of love with its cars
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Originally Posted by canyouheminow
Please refer to previous post. Secondly it's all about money, for one example is the fact that Toyota pays out the wazoo to make sure that their massive engine recalls on over 40% of the US Sales from 01-present due to sludging in the motors damn sure stays out of front page news. Do you honestly think that some (not all) import brands don't have someone lobbying for them in government making sure that they get certain things done below obvious radar, come on now we live in a capitalist society where money talks and undeserving people get screwed over. You don't have to believe any of this stuff that's you're right, I'm simply stating what I know from my own experience from working in the automobile business and the US Government.
Money and all those other things may be a factor, but at the end of it all the foreign automakers simply reacted better/faster to the changes in the American market. Ever since the muscle car era ended American companies have been a step behind the rest.
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Originally Posted by S13JD240
that is by far the most rediculous thing i have ever heard..... you make domestic owners look bad by trying to make excuses when noone attacked you
get off the computer and go drive your station wagon
get off the computer and go drive your station wagon
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Originally Posted by schoellnasty
So youre telling me that foreign companies can pay for lobbyists but the big three cant? What can they not afford it? Forgive me, but youre getting little too conspiracy theory on me here.
Money and all those other things may be a factor, but at the end of it all the foreign automakers simply reacted better/faster to the changes in the American market. Ever since the muscle car era ended American companies have been a step behind the rest.
Money and all those other things may be a factor, but at the end of it all the foreign automakers simply reacted better/faster to the changes in the American market. Ever since the muscle car era ended American companies have been a step behind the rest.
AAHHH dammit I'm a conspiracist!!!!! Where did it all go wrong!!!!!!
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Here we go again.....
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Originally Posted by canyouheminow
Look junior til you even get old enough to make an adult decision and grow chest hair, try to stay out of big peoples conversations mmm kay. As far as my station wagon goes if you ever wanna line up at the track and see what you can do against it, let me know I'm game for embarassing the iggnorant, cause if your 2 door sports car can't put at least 2 cars on my 4 door family "station wagon" as you like to put, then sit down and wait for your pubes to grow.
why do you try and make an excuse up for domestics? everyone else argues a great point and you go off in your own little box and decide that you wanna say that toyota is bribing the government. where the fuck did that come from?
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Ok, so I got a little carried away in my own conspiracies 
, but the toyota engine trouble is true though I wanna say it was the March 05 issue of Dealer News.
, but the toyota engine trouble is true though I wanna say it was the March 05 issue of Dealer News.
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but still why would the governement support foreign companies..... maybe toyota's p/r did a great job keeping that news out of the news
isnt one of the keys to our economy the auto industry? if the big three dont sell then our economy slows down. so my question is why would the government take bribes from companies that arent even going to help our economy?
isnt one of the keys to our economy the auto industry? if the big three dont sell then our economy slows down. so my question is why would the government take bribes from companies that arent even going to help our economy?
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but still why would the governement support foreign companies..... maybe toyota's p/r did a great job keeping that news out of the news
isnt one of the keys to our economy the auto industry? if the big three dont sell then our economy slows down. so my question is why would the government take bribes from companies that arent even going to help our economy?
isnt one of the keys to our economy the auto industry? if the big three dont sell then our economy slows down. so my question is why would the government take bribes from companies that arent even going to help our economy?
Ok my ability to make point clear and concise was not used there in my rant, I wasn't trying to say that Toyota was bringing down govt. I was simply using that as an example of money makes everything go round. I'm just tired of seeing domestics catch a bad rap, when imports have the same quality and reliability issues, it's just that no one ever talks about it. Import dealerships have just as many vehicles on their service racks as domestics do. Although I do agree that in the 80's and earlier 90's domestic brands blew it, with thinking to economical (quanity better than quality), but times have drastically changed and domestics are right there if not surpassed most import quality and reliabilty.
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