ATTN: Joe Dono AKA SCP_Celica SCAMMER
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I hope he does.If anything, the media might be there, and he could get his word out about how he is being scammed, and the epic nature of this thread can really test the boundaries of what it is to be in an epic situation.
So, how bout it Joe?
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Greetings from Windsor, Ontario, www.realtimeperformance.ca
I've got a garage that the Celica would look great in. I look forward to seeing the eBay listing for it.
I'll be contributing to the legal fund. Good luck! This tool deserves everything heading his way.
Al
I've got a garage that the Celica would look great in. I look forward to seeing the eBay listing for it.
I'll be contributing to the legal fund. Good luck! This tool deserves everything heading his way.
Al
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Over the course of three days I have been following this thread. It's just crazy how it keeps growing, you can never truly catch up. By the time I hit submit on this post it will probably have grown another two pages at least
I have read ALL the posts...although I'm sure I missed a chunk of the ones that were cleaned up by the mods/admin. I dont know how some of you got through it in a two-three hours...you either have mad forum reading skills or skimmed past posts. I shouldve done the same, but was dumb and read everything. From this I think I am qualified enough to offer some fair comments.
1. Joe Dono is just ridiculous. I don't know how no one has truly beaten him down as he had claimed in his story. It's almost ironic that the thing that deserves to happen to him was fabricated in a lie by him.
2. I pity the true victims here, and hate to see it trickle down to their families, but I believe this could have been avoided. It's unfortunate how this happened. I try to put myself in their situation and I think I might have done the exact same thing. I can imagine myself getting greedy with a huge score from some ricer kid with a grandpa willing to spoil him. Lesson learned.
3. I am pretty offended by the business' name. I dont know if it's an acronym for something, The answer to this has been posted by the thread starter and will end here. chi town brat S Mod
4. I would hope that these "donations" are being recorded by the J.A.P. Works folks and plan to return them to those that donated should they be awarded $ resulting in a net amount after all this litigation. If they decline or cannot be contacted, then that money could go towards a charity you all decide upon.
5. I'm a bit confused how one car can "save" this business. Especially when you claim two families have bills to pay in addition to the business expenses. I dont see how a $16K lien can save the day. Yes I understand you put a lot of time and money into this car, but a normal business would be able to move past this and continue to generate revenue, especially with all the publicity you have been receiving. I thought I read something about one of the owners only being able to work from home or a garage or something. Did I misinterpret his post? Or is the shop temporarily closed?
6. I'd assume you'd also try to sue for other damages, but clearly if the car was going to get repo'd this family really has no money to pay you. Youre fighting a lost cause, and I think it may be tough to get a good attorney to help you when it seems there really is no pay off for their work. You'd have to find someone who wants it for the publicity, or is charitable...speaking of which why has no one contacted legal aid? As far as I know, every state has a legal aid society or something similar.
7. Why is everyone talking on here like Joe Dono is going to prison? Someone stated he is no longer on probation, and if he did commit a criminal offense wouldn't he have been arrested by now? I mean he had a police officer accompany him to the shop in his feeble attempt to reclaim the car. I'm sure the police think he's a complete tool, but they apparenty don't think he's a criminal.
8. The best thing here is showing how the community rallies together to help someone in need, regardless of how it got to that point. I think it's great, and you really need to take advantage of the attention this is getting. The ideas coming out like the contest/bbq are great as well. I hope everything works out in the end and I will continue to pop in here for updates.
9. I don't know why I took the time to post this. As I'm sure most folks will skip long posts as mine, asking for cliff notes. Plus many just jump to the last page for the recent posts, and this will get bumped back three pages because of people like DC5 who really post a lot of irrelevant crap and clutter this thread. Yes, we know you are a close friend and are somewhat involved, but I think we could all do without youre attention whoring. Thank you.
10. I think it is pretty pathetic the amount that has been raised so far considering all those that have posted. I have my own reasons for not donating as stated in #3, but man people saying they are strapped for cash and cant even donate a measly dollar? Weak. All you locals should consider getting work done by them too, either now or in the immediate future.
Good luck J.A.P. Works, and please consider a name change or clarifying the acronym.
I have read ALL the posts...although I'm sure I missed a chunk of the ones that were cleaned up by the mods/admin. I dont know how some of you got through it in a two-three hours...you either have mad forum reading skills or skimmed past posts. I shouldve done the same, but was dumb and read everything. From this I think I am qualified enough to offer some fair comments.
1. Joe Dono is just ridiculous. I don't know how no one has truly beaten him down as he had claimed in his story. It's almost ironic that the thing that deserves to happen to him was fabricated in a lie by him.
2. I pity the true victims here, and hate to see it trickle down to their families, but I believe this could have been avoided. It's unfortunate how this happened. I try to put myself in their situation and I think I might have done the exact same thing. I can imagine myself getting greedy with a huge score from some ricer kid with a grandpa willing to spoil him. Lesson learned.
3. I am pretty offended by the business' name. I dont know if it's an acronym for something, The answer to this has been posted by the thread starter and will end here. chi town brat S Mod
4. I would hope that these "donations" are being recorded by the J.A.P. Works folks and plan to return them to those that donated should they be awarded $ resulting in a net amount after all this litigation. If they decline or cannot be contacted, then that money could go towards a charity you all decide upon.
5. I'm a bit confused how one car can "save" this business. Especially when you claim two families have bills to pay in addition to the business expenses. I dont see how a $16K lien can save the day. Yes I understand you put a lot of time and money into this car, but a normal business would be able to move past this and continue to generate revenue, especially with all the publicity you have been receiving. I thought I read something about one of the owners only being able to work from home or a garage or something. Did I misinterpret his post? Or is the shop temporarily closed?
6. I'd assume you'd also try to sue for other damages, but clearly if the car was going to get repo'd this family really has no money to pay you. Youre fighting a lost cause, and I think it may be tough to get a good attorney to help you when it seems there really is no pay off for their work. You'd have to find someone who wants it for the publicity, or is charitable...speaking of which why has no one contacted legal aid? As far as I know, every state has a legal aid society or something similar.
7. Why is everyone talking on here like Joe Dono is going to prison? Someone stated he is no longer on probation, and if he did commit a criminal offense wouldn't he have been arrested by now? I mean he had a police officer accompany him to the shop in his feeble attempt to reclaim the car. I'm sure the police think he's a complete tool, but they apparenty don't think he's a criminal.
8. The best thing here is showing how the community rallies together to help someone in need, regardless of how it got to that point. I think it's great, and you really need to take advantage of the attention this is getting. The ideas coming out like the contest/bbq are great as well. I hope everything works out in the end and I will continue to pop in here for updates.
9. I don't know why I took the time to post this. As I'm sure most folks will skip long posts as mine, asking for cliff notes. Plus many just jump to the last page for the recent posts, and this will get bumped back three pages because of people like DC5 who really post a lot of irrelevant crap and clutter this thread. Yes, we know you are a close friend and are somewhat involved, but I think we could all do without youre attention whoring. Thank you.
10. I think it is pretty pathetic the amount that has been raised so far considering all those that have posted. I have my own reasons for not donating as stated in #3, but man people saying they are strapped for cash and cant even donate a measly dollar? Weak. All you locals should consider getting work done by them too, either now or in the immediate future.
Good luck J.A.P. Works, and please consider a name change or clarifying the acronym.
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i havent read to the end it grows 15+ pages between 7 and now.
but just food for thought
i would HATE to see my work smashed up if i were the owners/ ppl that worked so hard to make this car. therefor i dont think smashing the car to pieces is a good idea. keeping it as a shop car or putting it on ebay or the like i would think is a better idea.
im just wondering what the owners would think/feel to see people smashing it with a sledge and all.
but just food for thought
i would HATE to see my work smashed up if i were the owners/ ppl that worked so hard to make this car. therefor i dont think smashing the car to pieces is a good idea. keeping it as a shop car or putting it on ebay or the like i would think is a better idea.
im just wondering what the owners would think/feel to see people smashing it with a sledge and all.
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If I woke up and realized I'm $30k in debt on a Celica with $16k worth of mods done to it and my girlfriend's got $60 to her name....
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First off all the "Donations" are being kept track of. I have both the Paypal record and a separate record.
Second, originally the name was J.A.P. Works. Which stood for the three original founding members, Justin, Aaron, Paul. It made sense because we were primarily working on JDM (JAPanese Domestic Market) vehicles. I've never once heard anyone say anything about it being racist BEFORE this thread. It isn't meant to be anything other than a name. If you're offended, please try to not be so narrow-minded.
Also, this car was not meant to "SAVE" the business. Many times a single car can put a shop in the limelight and have them set for years to come. Although this is not the type of car I would have chosen, this car could have put our name out there bigger than ever before. Regardless of the base/auto hatred cast upon it, the work speaks for itself and in the show world there are no points added or subtracted for being either base model or autotragic.
Tell me, the first time you see a GTR are you going to laugh because it isn't a V-Spec and it is an automatic?
We are not going to be working out of a garage from home, that is where we are moving most of our stuff because we are in danger of losing our shop space. We were actually in the midst of moving to a slightly larger space with more frontage and an additional overhead door. That contract was supposed to be signed around the 18th of this month allowing us time to move in. The unit we were wanting to move into is actually right next door to us so the move would not have been a major issue and we would have had plenty of time to do so after finishing this Celica. Now we do not have the money to sign the lease because we took that money that was set aside and invested it into getting the Celica done.
Our dilemma is that we still have to be out of our current building in the next few days, but now have no where to move into. Yes we cut this close, we thought it was a fairly safe gamble, and now we must pay the price for throwing those dice.
What Branden has said is that he can do basic work like welding and exhaust work from his house if people so desire. NOT that we will be attempting to run a shop from there.
So JAP Works may be closed down for a few weeks, but we will come back, and be stronger than ever!
Second, originally the name was J.A.P. Works. Which stood for the three original founding members, Justin, Aaron, Paul. It made sense because we were primarily working on JDM (JAPanese Domestic Market) vehicles. I've never once heard anyone say anything about it being racist BEFORE this thread. It isn't meant to be anything other than a name. If you're offended, please try to not be so narrow-minded.
Also, this car was not meant to "SAVE" the business. Many times a single car can put a shop in the limelight and have them set for years to come. Although this is not the type of car I would have chosen, this car could have put our name out there bigger than ever before. Regardless of the base/auto hatred cast upon it, the work speaks for itself and in the show world there are no points added or subtracted for being either base model or autotragic.
Tell me, the first time you see a GTR are you going to laugh because it isn't a V-Spec and it is an automatic?
We are not going to be working out of a garage from home, that is where we are moving most of our stuff because we are in danger of losing our shop space. We were actually in the midst of moving to a slightly larger space with more frontage and an additional overhead door. That contract was supposed to be signed around the 18th of this month allowing us time to move in. The unit we were wanting to move into is actually right next door to us so the move would not have been a major issue and we would have had plenty of time to do so after finishing this Celica. Now we do not have the money to sign the lease because we took that money that was set aside and invested it into getting the Celica done.
Our dilemma is that we still have to be out of our current building in the next few days, but now have no where to move into. Yes we cut this close, we thought it was a fairly safe gamble, and now we must pay the price for throwing those dice.
What Branden has said is that he can do basic work like welding and exhaust work from his house if people so desire. NOT that we will be attempting to run a shop from there.
So JAP Works may be closed down for a few weeks, but we will come back, and be stronger than ever!
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Greetings, Ladies and Gentlemen.
I am on the 40th page right now.. but thought, i'd drop a few notes..
I am as well as one other poster coming from G35driver.com,
Also, marking the spot with
www.yoursciontc.com and scionnew.com, i've posted a small article here.
Can't wait for the resolution.
here is the link to our YSTC convo on the matter
Good luck to the shop owner, and best regards.
I am on the 40th page right now.. but thought, i'd drop a few notes..
I am as well as one other poster coming from G35driver.com,
Also, marking the spot with
www.yoursciontc.com and scionnew.com, i've posted a small article here.
Can't wait for the resolution.
here is the link to our YSTC convo on the matter
Good luck to the shop owner, and best regards.
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First off all the "Donations" are being kept track of. I have both the Paypal record and a separate record.
Second, originally the name was J.A.P. Works. Which stood for the three original founding members, Justin, Aaron, Paul. It made sense because we were primarily working on JDM (JAPanese Domestic Market) vehicles. I've never once heard anyone say anything about it being racist BEFORE this thread. It isn't meant to be anything other than a name. If you're offended, please try to not be so narrow-minded.
Also, this car was not meant to "SAVE" the business. Many times a single car can put a shop in the limelight and have them set for years to come. Although this is not the type of car I would have chosen, this car could have put our name out there bigger than ever before. Regardless of the base/auto hatred cast upon it, the work speaks for itself and in the show world there are no points added or subtracted for being either base model or autotragic.
Tell me, the first time you see a GTR are you going to laugh because it isn't a V-Spec and it is an automatic?
We are not going to be working out of a garage from home, that is where we are moving most of our stuff because we are in danger of losing our shop space. We were actually in the midst of moving to a slightly larger space with more frontage and an additional overhead door. That contract was supposed to be signed around the 18th of this month allowing us time to move in. The unit we were wanting to move into is actually right next door to us so the move would not have been a major issue and we would have had plenty of time to do so after finishing this Celica. Now we do not have the money to sign the lease because we took that money that was set aside and invested it into getting the Celica done.
Our dilemma is that we still have to be out of our current building in the next few days, but now have no where to move into. Yes we cut this close, we thought it was a fairly safe gamble, and now we must pay the price for throwing those dice.
What Branden has said is that he can do basic work like welding and exhaust work from his house if people so desire. NOT that we will be attempting to run a shop from there.
So JAP Works may be closed down for a few weeks, but we will come back, and be stronger than ever!
Second, originally the name was J.A.P. Works. Which stood for the three original founding members, Justin, Aaron, Paul. It made sense because we were primarily working on JDM (JAPanese Domestic Market) vehicles. I've never once heard anyone say anything about it being racist BEFORE this thread. It isn't meant to be anything other than a name. If you're offended, please try to not be so narrow-minded.
Also, this car was not meant to "SAVE" the business. Many times a single car can put a shop in the limelight and have them set for years to come. Although this is not the type of car I would have chosen, this car could have put our name out there bigger than ever before. Regardless of the base/auto hatred cast upon it, the work speaks for itself and in the show world there are no points added or subtracted for being either base model or autotragic.
Tell me, the first time you see a GTR are you going to laugh because it isn't a V-Spec and it is an automatic?
We are not going to be working out of a garage from home, that is where we are moving most of our stuff because we are in danger of losing our shop space. We were actually in the midst of moving to a slightly larger space with more frontage and an additional overhead door. That contract was supposed to be signed around the 18th of this month allowing us time to move in. The unit we were wanting to move into is actually right next door to us so the move would not have been a major issue and we would have had plenty of time to do so after finishing this Celica. Now we do not have the money to sign the lease because we took that money that was set aside and invested it into getting the Celica done.
Our dilemma is that we still have to be out of our current building in the next few days, but now have no where to move into. Yes we cut this close, we thought it was a fairly safe gamble, and now we must pay the price for throwing those dice.
What Branden has said is that he can do basic work like welding and exhaust work from his house if people so desire. NOT that we will be attempting to run a shop from there.
So JAP Works may be closed down for a few weeks, but we will come back, and be stronger than ever!
Not sure what kind of zoning laws you have there, but yeah operating a business where you would be working on cars from home usually isn't legal. If I was in your situation, I'd still do it under the table though. You obviously have strong support locally and I don't think any of these people would rat you out. I'm still surprised your following hasn't put more money where their mouth is. The orgranized event does sound promising though. Good luck.
