Dirty808

I'm not sure we're the morons here. I've read this thread from when it all started and this is one of the dumbest posts I've found, and not because you throw out swear words like there going out of style. And not to diss the work or anything but if you would price this car at 40k you are a moron. Maybe and this is a giant maybe 25k, maybe. Base Model Celica(auto for that matter) with some great work done to it doesn't change that it is a Base Model Celica. I have a 2005 RSX with a DVD player in it want to buy it for 40K???

Wakeup

And how is he scamming? I still dont get what you are saying. Again, he didnt ask for the donations. He still hasn't gotten paid for the car. He can't sell the car yet till it ACTUALLY becomes his....which as far as I know from READING THE FRIGGIN THREAD THRU AND THRU....he just has it locked up WAITING FOR AN ANSWER ON THE MECHANICS LIEN...
Also we've heard from Joe. He just threatened to take his car back...He has posted on a forum or two about ALL THE WORK that was to be done to his car even after the paint job....he told Japworks that he PLANNED to PAY with his Grandfathers money...So verbally he agreed. He came BACK TO THE SHOP with his Girlfriend's $60, hoping that would be enough to get the car out of hock...(and not much more has been paid for except for his initial down payment originally for the paint job...and a laptop. And he came in a few times with Extra parts that needed to be installed....understanding labor was to be involved...) Unfortunately due to being OVERLY Trusting...Especially since the CAR is inhand....you tend to do the work expecting that you will get paid. Grant it he already fested up that he now wishes he had not taken the job, or wished he had pushed for money up front...

Again we're in a world where trust is a BIG issue. As any shop owner, and since you claim to have worked for a shop, YOU WISH YOU COULD TRUSTTTTTTTTT your clients....And take them for their word.
I do that all the time. I worked at a few computer shops as a Technician, and we get people's desktops and laptops etc all day long. Grant it generally we're not doing THOUSANDS upon 10 thousands of dollars in service on one item. We're doing maybe hundreds to maybe a couple thousand. But sometimes we take no Downpayment because the customer does not have the money in hand. Most of the time we do the work and trust the customer will come in with their payment. We get the few like Joe, whom we fix their problems they come in with other peices extra parts and extra things that we find need to be done, and in the end gets pissed because it is costing so much. sometimes they dont want to pay most of the time we get paid. This world is full of people that are scammers and morons who dug a whole deeper than their pockets allow. And just think they are entitled to get what they want. It is too bad this world has come to this. People like JOE.....has made the world what it is. Wouldn't you want to trust your neighbor next door to you to loan him something valuable to you? or your friend? or a family member? Nowadays you cant loan anything out in fear that your item may break and cause injury or damage to your family members even though you are trying to be helpful. God you cant even protect your own business or house due to the theif that breaks in hurts himself on some of your equipment or fence or something so he sues YOU even though he tried to rob you!? Sheesh...All because of people like Joe....

In most of the shops I worked at, we can't lend out a screwdriver to someone who just wants to uninstall their video card or they just want to install their new ram stick or replace their hard drive real quick; all EASY STUFF to do...right on the front counter...mainly due to state health association and the fact that if they hurt themselves with my friggin screwdriver they can sue me or my company even though I was NICE ENOUGH to lend them my tools to fix their problems. Geeze...
Long story short this is why people like us are willing to help other people like Japworks.

You keep throwing daggers, but none of your daggers are sticking. Why? Because you did not do any research. you did VERY little. and then you start pointing fingers and say what has been said over and over and over...AGAIN AND AGAIN... Why dont you question Joe...and see why he should get his car back? do you think he should? do you think he's not a scammer? then by all means PROVE this point. Then everyone will have to shut up. But you have to have evidence of such...otherwise your posts are meaningless and stupid, continuing to make you look like a moron.

importguy1208

I think you have JAP Works confused with Driven Concepts. I'm no Ian Hannigan and neither is Branden. We both have personal projects that have been on the back burner, no, I take that back, they haven't even been on the stove, in a very long time.

I have a 9,400 mile Black on Black six speed LS2 Clean Title GTO that I bought wrecked with some damage for a very good price that I intended on fixing up, driving for a little bit, and then selling for a profit so that I could buy things to make the shop a better shop.

It needed a core support and a frame rail and rather than try to do it myself I had a large collision center do the work on their laser frame machine.

They did not do anything other than install the frame rail and core support as I am more than qualified to do the rest of the work and didn't see why I should spend money paying them to do somethign I could do when I could invest that same money into the shop.

The car was finished on their end back in January. Since I got the car back I've installed a brake line, played with the wiring harness to get everything back in place, did a little bondo work, and played with the alignment on the front end. The fenders are not bolted on, the front bumpe had two screws holding it in place, and the hood is just bolted down and not aligned. If I was spending customers money on buying parts for my car I would have full exhaust, APS Twin Turbo system, full dyno tune, some real nice wheels/tires, and a painted, driveable car.

As it is the car is sitting behind a friends house because I PUT THE CUSTOMER FIRST.

Branden has a Supra that has been his pride and joy for three years. You know why it's been three years? Because three years ago he tore it down from a running driving car so that he could 2JZ swap it and do a custom widebody for it. You know what? It isn't done either. Know why? Because HE PUT THE CUSTOMER FIRST.

You won't find any fancy smancy shiny new uber-rare parts on our cars. We haven't splurged. Hell the wheels on the "shop truck" were part of an engine swap deal where the kid really couldn't afford to spend the money but had to have a running car as he couldn't afford the payments on his jeep and was selling it to someone else to take over payments.

Yep sounds like we are the jackass's you make us out to be. My apologies!

Trying to take people's money? Please, they practically begged me not to be so stubborn about it. It isn't my nature to take, I will give and give and give, if nothing else this whole issue with Joe proves that.

importguy1208

Here are pictures of both Branden and MY personal projects, clearly receiving a LOT of attention with parts from other cars and dust stacked on both of them while they sit in the corner of the shop.

PussixD10

Smoking and littering on shop floor eh?

MC Ray

They should definitely fire themselves for that.

pheobo

LOL! You are a TROLL... admins should ban you, because your usefulness online has taken the same path as your real life... do us all a favor and kill yourself.

Colonel Mustard

When the fuck did I say you can only post if you donated? If you don't want to donate then don't. But I guess you dont get that concept. Think about it and get back o me on that one....

pheobo

DOH!!! you aren't pussidx10... let me go read your posts and see if I still think you're an asshole... brb

95coBraSVT

Not really...You see, when I opened MY business, I paid my rent 1 yr in advance just in case something like this happened. Basicly, I PREPARED for hard times. I saw them already, but I made it through them too. So I have ALREADY been there and done that AND, I made it through them WITHOUT having to beg for money from others. It's called having a business plan and STICKING TO IT. You don't use monoey earmarked for something else. It is just bad business sense to do that.

Anything you get from these "donations" is pure profit for you. I wasn't even talking about the car selling for more than the $16,000. I was talking about the money that you've made from these "donations".

If you want no more responses from me, all you have to do is quit trying to justify the fact that you are taking money for nothing, because thats exactly what you are doing.