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Old 02-12-2007 | 03:28 PM
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sat im out driving and when i start to do highway pulls i c my boost gauge creep up to 20lbs.. i have the boost controller set at 15. it would usually spike at 20 and hold at 15 now it spikes comes down to 15psi and gradually goes back up...what could be the prob?

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Old 02-12-2007 | 05:56 PM
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Unported 14b on free flowing exhaust is the problem. You could pull the turbo and port it to help alleviate creep as the first option. Essentially you port a groove down to the wastegate port to make as much exhaust gas hit the "wall" there and go 90* through the wastegate instead of flowing past it. Obviously you keep it smooth, but the port job takes more material out going down to the wastegate port. There are pictures on dsmtuners if you search for posts by "oldman" on the subject of porting. This is supposed to be the most effective way of eliminating creep.

Your second option is running 20 psi. What fuel, datalogging, and tuning capabilities do you have? You'd be surprised how much you can eke out of the stock setup if you have a logger and tune for it. We were able to run 21 psi on Kris's car on an Evo 16g and stock injectors by getting the fuel pressure regulator from a nonturbo 1g to bump fuel pressure to 47 psi base, leaning it out to the mid 11's at higher rpm where the duty cycles got too high, and compensating with reduced timing where necessary.
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External wastegate and welded flapper would probly work as well but cost a bit more.
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Originally Posted by DSMboost97
External wastegate and welded flapper would probly work as well but cost a bit more.
i was thinking that too..the porting seems like it might help to...from what he told me..i guess this just means i gotta upgrade more parts
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Originally Posted by DSMboost97
External wastegate and welded flapper would probly work as well but cost a bit more.
yea for that he might as well spend a little extra and go evo316g
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Old 02-13-2007 | 12:26 PM
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thats what i plan on upgrading to
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Evo III 16g is going to creep just the same or worse unless you port it the same way. We couldn't get Kris's Evo 16g to run less than 20 psi unported.
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wow, hmm i never had a creep with my 16g. i could run 10psi no creep. it may have been ported out though
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Old 02-13-2007 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by DsmInduction
yea for that he might as well spend a little extra and go evo316g
Yea, my evo316G has bad boost creep as well, but if the MBC is set at 10psi, it only creeps up to 15 psi. I plan on welding a 38mm tial wastegate flange on my stock 2G manifold soon, hopefully that will solve all problems.
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yea come to think of it...my 16g did creep to 15psi but it started after like 6k
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