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Old 03-08-2007 | 08:56 PM
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Default 2G MAF w/510'S running wrong

I put some GVR4 510cc 's in my car along with an AFC and the 2G MAF

I have Hi Throttle +50 % across the board and the car still leans out on 12lbs from a 14b anyone have any suggetions on what the underlying issue could be ?

If I floor it th A/F's drop down to like 12.2:1 or so and then climb into the higher 12's and sometimes 13's or 14's ..

Does this sound like a Bad MAF ?
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Old 03-08-2007 | 09:03 PM
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it could be any of those three lol, but my guess is the afc, since a 50 percent increase in fuel doesnt change it. there is a wire that you have to cut in half for the afc install, one of the maf wires, maybe thats a bad connection, make sure thats fine, and all your connnections are soldered. youre reading this from a wideband right...(just making sure)
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Old 03-08-2007 | 10:44 PM
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If afc is wired correctly then the correction limits may need to be set. The factory correction limit is plus or minus 3%. so when you correct for 50% you are only getting a 3% change. try changing the correction limits to plus or minus 30%. that setting allows full scale changes.

not to be rude but you shouldn't be tuning this car yourself. your obviously lack the tuning knowledge necessary to tune correctly.
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Old 03-09-2007 | 08:53 AM
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i just dont think he is familiar with afc tuning.
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Old 03-09-2007 | 09:02 AM
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it could also be where the wideband sensor is its only like 8 inches away from where the down pipe ends I think its reading outside air and going lean I think the sensor needs to be move a little further from where the down pipe ends to get an accurate reading you might be running rich and the wideband not getting the correct reading.
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oh its open dp?
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Old 03-09-2007 | 01:07 PM
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Car is open DP but I have tuned many a car with the sensor a short distance from the end and it gives a good reading while WOT ..

I do not lack the knowledge to be tuning the car myself . I have enough to be able to tune whatever I would like ... Also I did read the instruction manual and understand the correction limits and what not . They are set @ 30% that was done before I even fired the car up with the AFC .. as well as all the other factors that need to be changed ..

I have recalibrated the TPS and pulled some timing out of the car as well as Adjusted the MAF screw in and all seems to be working a bit better . The AFC does not give me the ability to tune individual load cells it gives me a WOT adjustment that works for both higher and lower Karman rates ...

I turned the Boost up to 15psi and now the car is running richer because of the airflow ..

Car now sees a 11.5-12:1 A/F across the board but still has a few issues that need to be ironed out . Runs much better but I solved most of the issues now . Gonna try to tackle the FMIC install in a few minutes ..

Thanks for the help
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Old 03-09-2007 | 02:52 PM
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Is the mas hacked at all.
If you richen the 500-1000 low throttle rpm point all the way will it bog the car down?
Are you sure the injectors are 510s.
All american vr4s came with 450s.
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I got the injectors from Brothers they assured me they are 510's ...

Yellow top etc ...

I have low throttle @ about +25% tappering down to like +12-15% at redline

Throttle settings are 30% low 65 % high
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Old 03-09-2007 | 06:48 PM
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That sounds about right for a 2g mas with those injectors on stock 1g mas compensation.



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