Help Please 98 Eclipse Spyder Smoking
Help Please 98 Eclipse Spyder Smoking
I have a 98 Eclipse Spyder GS with the 4g64. I just had my head re-milled and surfaced 20 thousands. New gaskets and everything was fine until a week ago, when you start it doesnt smoke, but if you revv it to about 5k itll smoke blue out my exhaust. I rechecked my headbolts and everything still good so im thinking valve seals. I can make a video if you need me too I just don't wanna really have to take it apart again.
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1994 CHEVY CAMARO-TRADED
1993 HONDA CIVIC SEDAN-TRADED
1992 HONDA CIVIC HATCH-SOLD
1995 EAGLE TALON ESI-TRADED
1990 PLYMOUTH LASER RS TURBO-SOLD
2003 MITSUBISHI ECLIPSE RS-SOLD
1997 HONDA CIVIC SEDAN-SOLD
1998 MITSUBISHI ECLIPSE SPYDERSOLD
1996 HONDA CIVIC EX GSR SWAP WITH B16 TRANNY TYPE R INTAKE MANI AND MUCH MORE - NOW HAVE
1994 CHEVY CAMARO-TRADED
1993 HONDA CIVIC SEDAN-TRADED
1992 HONDA CIVIC HATCH-SOLD
1995 EAGLE TALON ESI-TRADED
1990 PLYMOUTH LASER RS TURBO-SOLD
2003 MITSUBISHI ECLIPSE RS-SOLD
1997 HONDA CIVIC SEDAN-SOLD
1998 MITSUBISHI ECLIPSE SPYDERSOLD
1996 HONDA CIVIC EX GSR SWAP WITH B16 TRANNY TYPE R INTAKE MANI AND MUCH MORE - NOW HAVE
sounds like valve seals to me.
Thats what i was thinking im hoping its not the stupid headgasket again
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1994 CHEVY CAMARO-TRADED
1993 HONDA CIVIC SEDAN-TRADED
1992 HONDA CIVIC HATCH-SOLD
1995 EAGLE TALON ESI-TRADED
1990 PLYMOUTH LASER RS TURBO-SOLD
2003 MITSUBISHI ECLIPSE RS-SOLD
1997 HONDA CIVIC SEDAN-SOLD
1998 MITSUBISHI ECLIPSE SPYDERSOLD
1996 HONDA CIVIC EX GSR SWAP WITH B16 TRANNY TYPE R INTAKE MANI AND MUCH MORE - NOW HAVE
1994 CHEVY CAMARO-TRADED
1993 HONDA CIVIC SEDAN-TRADED
1992 HONDA CIVIC HATCH-SOLD
1995 EAGLE TALON ESI-TRADED
1990 PLYMOUTH LASER RS TURBO-SOLD
2003 MITSUBISHI ECLIPSE RS-SOLD
1997 HONDA CIVIC SEDAN-SOLD
1998 MITSUBISHI ECLIPSE SPYDERSOLD
1996 HONDA CIVIC EX GSR SWAP WITH B16 TRANNY TYPE R INTAKE MANI AND MUCH MORE - NOW HAVE
would anyone else know i need opinions
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1994 CHEVY CAMARO-TRADED
1993 HONDA CIVIC SEDAN-TRADED
1992 HONDA CIVIC HATCH-SOLD
1995 EAGLE TALON ESI-TRADED
1990 PLYMOUTH LASER RS TURBO-SOLD
2003 MITSUBISHI ECLIPSE RS-SOLD
1997 HONDA CIVIC SEDAN-SOLD
1998 MITSUBISHI ECLIPSE SPYDERSOLD
1996 HONDA CIVIC EX GSR SWAP WITH B16 TRANNY TYPE R INTAKE MANI AND MUCH MORE - NOW HAVE
1994 CHEVY CAMARO-TRADED
1993 HONDA CIVIC SEDAN-TRADED
1992 HONDA CIVIC HATCH-SOLD
1995 EAGLE TALON ESI-TRADED
1990 PLYMOUTH LASER RS TURBO-SOLD
2003 MITSUBISHI ECLIPSE RS-SOLD
1997 HONDA CIVIC SEDAN-SOLD
1998 MITSUBISHI ECLIPSE SPYDERSOLD
1996 HONDA CIVIC EX GSR SWAP WITH B16 TRANNY TYPE R INTAKE MANI AND MUCH MORE - NOW HAVE
Warm it up and let it idle for about 10 minutes...then hit the gas a few times and see if it starts smoking. If it puffs a bit when you tap the gas its probably valve stem seals. Id do that and a compression test for starters..
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I did that it wont smoke until i give it gas and take it up to about 5k or so then it goes away until i rev it again and i did do the compression test the other day number 1 piston was 170 2nd one was 163 or somthing around there 3rd was about the same and 4th was around 170
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1994 CHEVY CAMARO-TRADED
1993 HONDA CIVIC SEDAN-TRADED
1992 HONDA CIVIC HATCH-SOLD
1995 EAGLE TALON ESI-TRADED
1990 PLYMOUTH LASER RS TURBO-SOLD
2003 MITSUBISHI ECLIPSE RS-SOLD
1997 HONDA CIVIC SEDAN-SOLD
1998 MITSUBISHI ECLIPSE SPYDERSOLD
1996 HONDA CIVIC EX GSR SWAP WITH B16 TRANNY TYPE R INTAKE MANI AND MUCH MORE - NOW HAVE
1994 CHEVY CAMARO-TRADED
1993 HONDA CIVIC SEDAN-TRADED
1992 HONDA CIVIC HATCH-SOLD
1995 EAGLE TALON ESI-TRADED
1990 PLYMOUTH LASER RS TURBO-SOLD
2003 MITSUBISHI ECLIPSE RS-SOLD
1997 HONDA CIVIC SEDAN-SOLD
1998 MITSUBISHI ECLIPSE SPYDERSOLD
1996 HONDA CIVIC EX GSR SWAP WITH B16 TRANNY TYPE R INTAKE MANI AND MUCH MORE - NOW HAVE
It just feels like the power isnt there either idk what its issue is lol
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1994 CHEVY CAMARO-TRADED
1993 HONDA CIVIC SEDAN-TRADED
1992 HONDA CIVIC HATCH-SOLD
1995 EAGLE TALON ESI-TRADED
1990 PLYMOUTH LASER RS TURBO-SOLD
2003 MITSUBISHI ECLIPSE RS-SOLD
1997 HONDA CIVIC SEDAN-SOLD
1998 MITSUBISHI ECLIPSE SPYDERSOLD
1996 HONDA CIVIC EX GSR SWAP WITH B16 TRANNY TYPE R INTAKE MANI AND MUCH MORE - NOW HAVE
1994 CHEVY CAMARO-TRADED
1993 HONDA CIVIC SEDAN-TRADED
1992 HONDA CIVIC HATCH-SOLD
1995 EAGLE TALON ESI-TRADED
1990 PLYMOUTH LASER RS TURBO-SOLD
2003 MITSUBISHI ECLIPSE RS-SOLD
1997 HONDA CIVIC SEDAN-SOLD
1998 MITSUBISHI ECLIPSE SPYDERSOLD
1996 HONDA CIVIC EX GSR SWAP WITH B16 TRANNY TYPE R INTAKE MANI AND MUCH MORE - NOW HAVE
have you checked your oil and coolant? also, you may wanna check your head bolts. it's possible during the rebuild they weren't torqued properly and the head could be lifting when you get on it.
yeah i checked my oil and coolant both their both fine but when i did check my bolt i retorqued them 5ft lbs more and the number one piston front bolt wouldnt lock in on the torque wrench it just kept turning but when i first put it in it was perfect so idk
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1994 CHEVY CAMARO-TRADED
1993 HONDA CIVIC SEDAN-TRADED
1992 HONDA CIVIC HATCH-SOLD
1995 EAGLE TALON ESI-TRADED
1990 PLYMOUTH LASER RS TURBO-SOLD
2003 MITSUBISHI ECLIPSE RS-SOLD
1997 HONDA CIVIC SEDAN-SOLD
1998 MITSUBISHI ECLIPSE SPYDERSOLD
1996 HONDA CIVIC EX GSR SWAP WITH B16 TRANNY TYPE R INTAKE MANI AND MUCH MORE - NOW HAVE
1994 CHEVY CAMARO-TRADED
1993 HONDA CIVIC SEDAN-TRADED
1992 HONDA CIVIC HATCH-SOLD
1995 EAGLE TALON ESI-TRADED
1990 PLYMOUTH LASER RS TURBO-SOLD
2003 MITSUBISHI ECLIPSE RS-SOLD
1997 HONDA CIVIC SEDAN-SOLD
1998 MITSUBISHI ECLIPSE SPYDERSOLD
1996 HONDA CIVIC EX GSR SWAP WITH B16 TRANNY TYPE R INTAKE MANI AND MUCH MORE - NOW HAVE
They are torque to yield bolts... over torque or reusing them stretches them. they are stretched then if they kept turning also who redoes a head just has it milled and does not put new valve seals in or does not grind or re lap the valves. Sorry but to me this whole thing sounds like it the product of someone that does not have a clue what they are doing. SO back to the drawing board spend a little money and get it done right. Might want to do a lil more research on what your working on and how to do it right. Maybe that's why you are here. Take the head back off. Put some arp head studs in the block. Get a mls head gasket. Have your valve seals replaced and maybe new or re-machine your valves, check the valve guides upgrade the 3g lifters. Then you did the head justice and have a job well done. Also just noticed that this is a na stock 4g64 right? Might have over 100k on it... no turbo right.. Yes you might have good compression but your oil rings might be letting oil into the cylinder. Are you using oil? IS the smoke a product of oil burning or bad fuel mixtures. Its most likely smoking due to the valve seals and rings. Don't confuse good compression with all the rings being good.
Last edited by IllegalModz; 10-24-2010 at 04:05 PM.