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Old 05-05-2008, 07:16 AM
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Yes but wouldn't you think that the rule isn't about one specific portion of the plane? Breaking the sound barrier is breaking the sound barrier whether you do it with a wing tip or the fuselage... right?
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Originally Posted by SaturnTypeR
It is actually against Air force policy to break the sound barrior at a air show..esp over a crowd.
Good thing the 18 doesnt belong to the Chair Force then. You see in the Navy and Marine Corps, we know what the Hornet wants to do. So we dont hold her back!!! 18's FTMFW
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Originally Posted by .:Chris:.
Yes but wouldn't you think that the rule isn't about one specific portion of the plane? Breaking the sound barrier is breaking the sound barrier whether you do it with a wing tip or the fuselage... right?
well no.

then the PLANE hits an actual ground speed of Mach 1.00 it will create the boom. there is a difference. its hard to explain and understand, LOTS of physics and shit lol
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Originally Posted by Michael.
well no.

then the PLANE hits an actual ground speed of Mach 1.00 it will create the boom. there is a difference. its hard to explain and understand, LOTS of physics and shit lol
I just think you're over-thinking it. He broke the sound barrier and there's a rule against it.
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Nice shots guys...
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They are strict about breaking it over a crowd or a event. Like the tomcat that was breaking the sound barrior between 2 ships. but then again he was low.

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Originally Posted by .:Chris:.
I just think you're over-thinking it. He broke the sound barrier and there's a rule against it.
lol chris, he did not break it, if he broke it the sonic boom would have happened! there IS a difference.

there is a point where it is THAT CLOSE, again "pushing the envelope"

i talked to my dad AND to the guys at the show, pilots of the other 18's, that said the exact same thing...

some of the guys in this thread explain some of it as well post your Supersonic shots - Canon Digital Photography Forums

Well you are sorta correct. If the vapor is stuck to the wings like a blanket or trail the wing in vortices you are correct. If you have a cone shape anywhere along the A/C then not quite so correct.

You see the sound barrier moves along the length, width & bredth of the A/C as it goes faster and faster.

Just like a propeller, a flight surface can actually be moving faster on one side then the other. As an A/C gets closer and closer to breaking the sound barrier that cone of pressure waves gets closer to the nose and then aft of the A/C, once it completely passes - then boom - boom.

But local and small booms are heard and seen all time near airports. in 05 the Blues #5 did over the SF Bay. He broke the barrier with just the nose of the A/C and broke several boat windows and injured a sailor to two.

Actually this is called the doppler effect and has two booms one for the nose and one for the tail. It is possible to have just the nose and not the tail go through the barrier (they slow down fast enough).

The vapor is caused because of the vacuum effect of both the doppler and the wing shape, it's speed, the humidity, altitude etc.

I just love how it looks, no matter why
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ok i took pics.. and they sucked.. but wow.. you have a bad ass camera.. what kind did you use? It was hottt outside!!!

I think i caught the same picture you did.

I was looking for me in that people picture.. woulda been cool if you caught me
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p.s. i thought it was pretty bad ass when the star fighters blasted everyone with their exhaust fumes lol
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